Forest Rd Bexly

July 17th, 2019
 
 

  

 

I  did a quote in Bexly and along Forest Rd these are some of the old white clearway signs I noticed
 

 
 

 

 

 

Did you spot the sign in the correct level position?


 

It had been re-adjusted with  an extra coach bolt AND washer,which  does the job in holding up the bracket. 

 

 

 

 On this example of RMS skill someone added an extra bracket supporting bolt,  but not only didn't correct the bracket creep but damaged the sign too.

                                                                                                    West Botony St Mascot

 

 

 

Flora St corner and Acacia by pass Kirrawee


I really do feel that there is a problem in the way clearway signs are installed.


Or am I just being "Tangential and Hypomanic?"


To be continued..................................

Another day more bracket creep

July 8th, 2019
 Some more photos of RMS incompentance on display in HI-VIS , to add to this four year scrapbook.
 
 
 
Turning left onto Taren Point Road from The Kingsway this morning,
I noticed these near new* clearway signs.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                                                 
 
                                          
 
 
  and further down Taren Point road over Parraweena rd, was this one 
 
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    and right across the street was another example of  bracket creep.
 
                                       ..................................................................................
 
 
      one more on the left side of Taren Pt Rd 
 
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                  and directly across the road was this one

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When I say near new*, they would be less than two years old

 and  no doubt these clearway signs,

" are fixed in place in accordance with 

Australian Standards  " 

  as stated in the letter below.

 

 

 

Bracket creep

July 6th, 2019
 

  

Heading back from from Alfords Point to Hurstville on Friday 5 July I noticed these examples of work done by RMS contractors.


Just some more to add this 4 year catalogue of shoddy work.

 

 
 
 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The next one was slanting up, but firmly tightened. I think the rubbish truck loading arm caught it. I pulled it down to it's rightful  position.
 
 
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 King Georges road Blakehurst
 
 
 
 
 
 
The link above explains how much weight a clearway sign bracket can hold without bracket creep by using not one, but two coachbolts.

                                                                                                                             Before
 
                                                                                                                                                                   After                                

 
 
 
Without the second cach bolt the next sign looks like this. 
 

Roads Minister No 3

June 26th, 2019

     As I said in my previous post  I would email the new roads minister Mr Constance, and last night I did using his contact page.

 

"Dear Minister Constance,

 

for nearly four years now I have been trying to get change in the way the new Hi-Vis Yellow clearway way are installed.

 

My website www.schoolzonesanta.com   catalogues my effort in getting a bit of common sense into the situation."

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I added these 5 photos ( I think these were the photos. I didn't  just have those, on the desktop)

 
I could've said so much more in my email, but hopefully the photos should be enough to get the email opener's interest, and click on this website.
 
 I hope that Minister Constance will be made aware of my clearway sign concerns.


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 I could have (if needed) also used the following photos
 
 
 
 The two new Hi-Vis signs above, were installed less than 3 weeks before I took the photo.
( I have eye witness proof)
 
 
,
 
And there are many more photos of new clearway signs that are installed  "to Australian Standards" like this, on this website going back nearly four years.

to be continued.......................................
 

Say no more.

June 12th, 2019
 
 12 June 2019

This morning I had to go to Balmain from home in Kirrawee

On the way there and back I took the following photos.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                                                                The two added little bolts didn't help to keep up the sign in the next photo horizontal.
 
 
 
 
                      
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 When I took it on myself earlier this year to drill an extra hole in the bracket, and added an extra coach bolt, the sign stayed put, even with the 28 extra lbs
hanging off the end of the sign.

 So two bolts work.

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  I was going to send this as a letter to the editor, but I rang a reporter at our local LEADER newspaper, and he didn't seem to have my enthusiasm, so I'll write to our new Roads Minister instead.


Dear sir,

I read with great interest your story about the delay in getting a damaged bus shelter replaced in Alfords Point . ("Residents angered by bus shelter loss" Leader May 29)

 Deputy Mayor Steve Simpson has been on the case for months to no avail.

Then the Council resolved to write to the relevant state government agency in the strongest terms, and secure a firm commitment the bus stop be returned to good service.?

Nothing Happened, so Cr Simpson (with support from other Councillors )  wrote to the Roads Minister, The Premier, and  the local MP demanding that the bus shelter be replaced.

All the weight of The Sutherland Council, the Local Liberal MP, a National Party Roads Minister, a Liberal party Premier and no one can find a new bus shelter.

Imagine how frustrated I have been after nearly four years of trying to get the RMS to put up clearway signs properly.

 I naively thought that an email to the then roads Minister Gay, alerting him to an obvious problem would see results.  The brackets used by the RMS to attach the clearway signs to power poles are the same ones used by the Department of Mains roads (DMR), and then the Road and traffic authority (RTA)

The bracket has one coach bolt fastening it to the post or pole, and two small bolts are used to attach the clearway sign.

If the one bolt into the pole isn't fastened tight enough the bracket droops, (a look, ok for fascinators at the Melbourne Cup), but not on signs lining our main roads.

    It's RMSincompetence on display, in Hi-Vis yellow.

But did  Mr Gay, MP Duncan Kerr,  The new Roads Minister Melinda Pavey, The premier, or their minions,  accept a common sense suggestion from an old carpet layer that the bracket needs two bolts?      Not on your nelly.

My website www.schoolzonesanta.com catalogues the saga over the last four years of me trying to get a bit of plain common sense in the clearway sign installation department .

 The photo shown below shows two signs, six months after being  Installed to  "Australian Standards."

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 This morning Thurs 13

I drove along Rocky Point rd Sans Souci and the clearway sign are the old white, and these two caught my eye.

Over Captain Cook Bridge on Taren Point Road the Hi-Vis yellow signs replaced last year are heading south also.

 
What was that line.... "When will they ever learn.?"

 

The carnival is over

May 23rd, 2019
 
 
 
 

 
 

We have had two Elections and the goodies have won.

 That means we have a new Roads Minister in NSW 

 

Andrew Constance

 A man with great responsibilites

I wonder if my concerns about the installation of clearway signs will be of interest to him.

When you are head of a portfolio of billions being spent why would he care about a few crooked signs, which I was informed were installed to "Australian Standards"

Roads Minister Gay wasn't imformed, or thought it not important. when I raised the problem in July 2015

My first email to the then roads minister Gay on 4/3/2016

   http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/where-too-now

 

                                                     

                                                                                                                         Road Minister Gay 2015

                                                         

                           These two signs (above) were like this six months after instalation on his watch.
 
 
                                                                                                     Then Minister Gay retired and Ms Melinda Pavey took over as Roads Minister
 
 
                                                                                                                                                        Ms Melinda Pavey
 
 
 
I was going to write again and go on about the last three years of not getting meaning -full change but no, below is a previous page that should explain everything: 
 
                                                                                                    http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/is-it-finished
 
                                                                                                    http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/do-it-yourself

 
 
 
                                                                                                                       Here are a few photos I took today 23 May 2019

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                                                                                                   and a couple from the past
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                                                                    http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/do-it-yourself
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Don't criticise Ray Hadley

March 18th, 2019

 

I did, and he doesn't forget.

 

 

I  had incurred the wrath of Ray previousily but I thought last week, that the subject I wanted to bring to his attention was more important than my earlier clumsy attempts of feedback etiquett, and he would let bygone be bygones and he would help me.

 

For over three years I have tried to get people from the Premier, Road Minister(s), my local MP, and media to get the RMS to use a little common sense in the way they erect clearway signs with little sucess.

So I emailed Ray to ask his help.

 

  

................................................................................

 

 

Hi Ray,
I remember how long it took for you to get a common-sense solution with the Galston  gorge, and trying to persuade Eric Roozendal that the pink batts thing wasn?t working.
Imagine me, with no clout all, just persistence, trying to get the RMS to put two bolts in their clearway sign brackets to keep them up.   The bracket didn?t work with the old white signs, and don?t work with new yellow ones.
Over three years and nothing back but nonsense.
Three years of photos, and to and fro emails from local my MP Duncan Kerr,(who I voted for), Minister Gay, then, Ms Pavey (who champions driverless buses), the RMS, and Premier?s office all on www.schoolzonesanta.com
My automatic reply to this morning?s email was no 4281616992811856227 so I know you are very busy. But could your spare a minute of your valuable time?
Do you think that new clearway signs should look like those in the photo after less than three weeks?  I have proof, or do you think this good workmanship?
Thanks Ray,
Regards Hans

 after no reply, I  emailed Ray again

 

Hi Ray , The automated reply when I sent two earlier emails this week comes back saying that my message is safely in your hands. Sadly for me I haven't had a personal reply from you.
Do you think that the way the RMS is installing the new hi-vis clearway signs is done To Australian standards?

 

No reply


another email I sent Ray earlier

 

 

From: Ray Hadley Morning Show <digital@mrn.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 11:37 AM
To: stephens1510@optusnet.com.au
Subject: We have received your feedback email! - 3998246182814651902

Hello hans,

Thank you for your feedback email. It has been safely delivered to The Ray Hadley Morning Show.

Please do not reply to this email as this is an automated message.

A copy of your feedback email is below.

Thank you 

2GB 873

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your Feedback Email;

Hi Ray, I take great umbrage at Scott Morrison being portrayed as Santa. school zone santa has been in the Santa business in the Shire for over ten years.  You have great trouble getting common sense in Government. I have been for over two years trying to get the RMS to put up the new hi-vis yellow clearway signs properly. So simple, but as two years of pages in schoolzonesanta.com they aren't getting it. I'm not getting through.

Regards Hans

 

......................................................................

No reply

 

 

I know Ray's a busy man, but this whole clearway sign thing is for a good cause, to stop wasting taxpayer's hard earned money 

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So why  doesn't Ray like me?

 

 A bit of background.

The Monday morning after a SUPER CHEAP Bathurst 1000 I rang Ray's Feedback line on 131873

"Would you like to speak to Ray?"

"Yes please"

"What would you like to talk about?"

Well I said, I am  a bit concerned that during yesterday's Bathurst 1000 motor race that out of 10 pages of this month's Super cheap specials catalogue, the ad that was repeated all afternoon, wasn't motor oil, or wiper blades, .....but 4 cans of spray paint for $10

 I asked, who watches Bathurst, and who does graffiti?  Young blokes. How much damage can you do with one $2.50 can of spray paint.

"You've got a point there,  Ray's team member said, as I heard him type my "What do want to talk about" on his key board to Ray's monitor.

The young  man came back to me, and said; "Sorry Ray doesn't want to talk about it." 

 I emailed Ray, and asked why don't you want to talk about it?

 Ray emailed back "They have safeguards, and you have to be over 18 to buy spray paint cans and, that's why I don't want to talk about it"

My grave error was to then email Ray back, and suggest that he had  "selective indignation."


What I thought would happen when I rang,  was that Ray would talk about the safeguards on air, about the locked cages, and the 18 yo age  limit, and to answer my question about why Super cheap would  push specials on spray paint cans to a target audience.

 

.......................................

Selective indignation aside, Ray also has a good memory

..............................................

 Maybe three years later, I read an article in the Telegraph  about the dangers of plug in air fresheners

I had always worried about these things, you plug these them into a power point and,  it heats up the oil/chemical inside, and this makes the room smell nice.

Because of Ray's great work with the Motor Neuron disease, a horrible desease which is getting more, and more prevelant with no known  cause, or cure, I thought Ray would be interested in my thoughts.

How many differant vapourised chemicals do we breath in every day. "Natural" fly sprays in a container the sprays out  using a timer.

Now there is a plug in device with a chemical in it that calms nervous pets.  (Would've been great for Hugh Hefner)

Just imagine the combination of flyspray, air freshener, pet calming, not to mention  oven cleaner,  countertop cleaning sprays

There's cockroach spray now on the market, that you can spray standing up.

I think anything that kills cockroaches can't be good for us to inhale.

 By co-incidence Ray read the same article about the plug in air fresheners out over the air,  so I rang his feed back line.

 I went through the  " Do you want to speak Ray, and what do you want to talk about" routine. 

 Within 30 seconds it was a YES HANS? from Ray.

 I was caught off guard because you can wait an hour to get air with any talkback radio host, and with some you get clicked off when that particular host has finished his shift.

" I heard you read out the article about the possible danger of plug in air fresheners because you are breathing in vapourised chemicals. " I stammered.

 How do you know they are chemicals,   asked Ray?

Well there's this oily stuff in the bottom of these air fresheners and they are heated and vaporised, and you breathe that in.

 "YOU CAN'T COME ON AIR, AND TRY TO SCARE PEOPLE, thundered Ray in the voice he uses when talking to callers, and guests he doesn't like.

"But.....  but...  but there's this oily stuff in the bowl....and it heats up and vapourises"

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY AREN'T  NATURAL OILS,

WHAT CHEMICALS ARE THEY??  Ray demanded to know.

So Ray had me admit to him, and his listeners that I couldn't name the contents of the air freshener bowl.

 My time on air then came to an end.

........................................................

 I sent Ray a website article   https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0360132316304334

 An extract from the above website 

"In a chamber study, a plug-in air freshener emitted d-limonene, dihydromyrcenol, linalool, linalyl acetate, and b-citronellol at 34,180 mg/day over 3 days while air concentrations averaged 30,160 ìg/m3[35]. In another chamber study with a plug-in air freshener, formaldehyde concentrations reached 28.2 ìg/m3, with total aldehydes approximately 50 ìg/m3[51].

Emissions by air fresheners used indoors can also migrate outdoors, affect outdoor air quality, and contribute to photochemical smog. For instance, in California in 1997, air fresheners emitted an estimated 7.5 tonnes/day of VOCs, translating to 230 mg/day per person VOC emissions [29].

In a chamber study, a plug-in air freshener emitted d-limonene, dihydromyrcenol, linalool, linalyl acetate, and b-citronellol at 34,180 mg/day over 3 days while air concentrations averaged 30,160 μg/m3[35]. In another chamber study with a plug-in air freshener, formaldehyde concentrations reached 28.2 μg/m3, with total aldehydes approximately 50 μg/m3[51].

Emissions by air fresheners used indoors can also migrate outdoors, affect outdoor air quality, and contribute to photochemical smog. For instance, in California in 1997, air fresheners emitted an estimated 7.5 tonnes/day of VOCs, translating to 230 mg/day per person VOC emission]."

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Give me a ring Chris

March 11th, 2019
 
 
 

 



If there is anything on this site over the last three years that doesn't make sense, give me a ring Chris.

There is a lot of repeated stuff because, I thought as it was such a common sense matter, one email would get action.

The sign bracket needs TWO bolts.

PS

The poles and wires were sold, and now I notice that numerous clearway signs are now on steel posts alongside the overseas owned power pole, that they had been mounted on before.



 

                                                                                                                                 Has orign put the rent up?

 

Beware the Ides of March

March 9th, 2019
 
 

 

    Below is a post I put up when I thought direct action was necesscary.  

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/do-it-yourself

My wife was pleading with me at the time,to give up, "you can't win she said"

 

Alan Jones years ago was speaking about an

upcoming election and, I rang him. 

"I don't care who gets in" I said.

"Oh you must care " he said
.
" No I don't care, I replied,

as long as they don't waste the money"


Sending men to repeatedly "re-adjusting" signs as (they called it,) is wasting the money.

 

 

Not your local paper

March 8th, 2019

 

  

 

Elbow St.

That name seems familiar. 

 That's the street where the NSW road minister has her electoral office.

What would an entrepid newspaper reporter do after he saw a website that catalogues three years of a citizen trying to get a bit of common sense in the installation of clearway signs?

Well if he was too busy himseif (because he's filling in for the boss)  he would  (because he is the fill in boss) order  another reporter  to wander up Elbow street, pop into the Nats Electoral office, and ask if anone there has seen my website?

 Because there is an Election in the offing, Minister Pavey may even be in attendence

                                

 .....................................................................................................................................

 

  

   This is an email I sent (as you can see) at 12.35am this morning.    

 ............................................................................................................................................................

From: Hans Stephens <stephens1510@optusnet.com.au>
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2019 12:35 AM
To: 'christian.knight@fairfaxmedia.com.au' <christian.knight@fairfaxmedia.com.au>
Subject: Local paper

 

Dear Editor,

 

When I rang the Daily Telegraph the editorial team member said my story would be better for a local paper.

 

I have tried for over three years to get two bolts put into clearway signs  but there s no meaningful  change.

 

What do you think, Is it a story?

Regards

 

Hans Stephens

 

(adress details)

 

                                                                      

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          and this was the very prompt reply,at 8.38am this morning

..........................................................................................................................

 

From: Ute Schulenberg <ute.schulenberg@fairfaxmedia.com.au>
Sent: Friday, 8 March 2019 8:38 AM
To: Hans Stephens <stephens1510@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Local paper

We are on the Mid North Coast - not your local paper

 Sorry!

 ................................................................................

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 00:35, Hans Stephens <stephens1510@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

Dear Editor,

When I rang the Daily Telegraph the editorial team member said my story would be better for a  local paper.

I have tried for over three years to get two bolts put into clearway signs  but there's no meaningful  change.

 

What do you think, Is it a story?

 

Regards

 

Hans Stephens

(address deatails)

...............................................................................................................................................

 Well at least Mr Schulenburg said sorry,

But before he so quickly replied, did he run my email past the editor, the person I sent it to

 

I see in a second email that the editor

is on leave, but maybe in this modern

world, he can be contacted on a mobil.


When I posted (with a stamp) a letter to the Road Minister Ms Pavey.

The staff member in her Kempsey office told me she'd read it, and sent it to head office in Sydney

After very little help from my local member MP Duncan Kerr, I asked him to walk up the hall in Macquarie st and ask  personaly (Ms Pavey) to look at my website.

My emails to and from my local MP (who I voted for) 

 

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/frustration 

   

Why is it all so difficult?

Stop press

March 5th, 2019

  Sorry  lots of photos have disappeared from  older pages on this site. 

One day I'll go back and put them back up.

............................................................................................................

 

I've just rung the Daily Telegraph and spoke to a very patient team member, and with her, scrolled down this site.

She agreed with me that the new  Hi- Vis yellow, and the old white clearway signs look untidy, and two bolts in the bracket would make sense.

She agreed with me that if I hung myself from a clearway sign I would get publicity.  

There is 28lb hanging from this RMS clearway sign that I had taken down, (wearing a HI-Vis Vest)

I then  drilled an extra hole in this RMS bracket and re-installed it with two coach bolts wearing the afore mentioned vest, and there was also a large orange cone in close proximity, (also for safety reasons.)

I was kidding (about the hanging myself line ) the call was recorded "for training purposes"and can be checked for contex.

The Telegraph lady said she would pass my  clearway sign concerns on.


 I await a call from a reporter ................ 

   ....................................................................................................................................................

This 3 year+ saga of mine to get a bit of sense in the installation of roadside clearway signs, has to be a news story.


Even just the fact that I interfer with RMS signs, (with photos) should be a story


Ms Pavey's Kempsey office staff  know 

The RMS  know, but obviously they all think I'll go away.    

 

  1. Common sense

    Book by Thomas Paine


    Common sense is sound practical judgment concerning everyday matters, or a basic ability to perceive, understand, and judge that is shared by nearly all people. The first type of common sense, good sense, can be described as "the knack for seeing things as they are, and doing things as they ought to be done." The second type is sometimes described as folk wisdom, "signifying unreflective knowledge not reliant on specialized training or deliberative thought." The two types are intertwined, as the person who has common sense is in touch with common-sense ideas, which emerge from the lived experiences of those commonsensical enough to perceive ts nethem.







where to now

February 28th, 2019

 

 



CLEARWAY SIGNS

 For many many years I've noticed the untidy state of the clearway signs lining our major roads


Here a just five of many examples. 


     
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
         
 
 
 

 

 

 On the way to the airport this morning  (Thurs 28 Feb 2019) this one was swinging in the breeze In Carrs Park 

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Mid 2016 I noticed from Blakehurst to Sutherland  the white clearway signs on the Princes Highway had been replaced by bright Hi-Vis yellow ones

 I wrote into The Local Leader newspaper

I next mentioned the Hi-Vis clearway signs in this post

 

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/rms-perfection

 

"Numerous  signs are now at jaunty angles,

a good look for Melbourne Cup facinators,

but not for newly erected road signs.

The signs are fixed to a bracket with two bolts

but the bracket is fixed to the power pole with only one bolt.

So the sign can, if not tightened enough,  pivot

to unprofessional angles as pictured ."

 

 And then the rot set in, the clearway sign bracket creep started

 

From Sutherland to St Ives, newly erected Hi-Vis yellow clearway signs  adopted the old white sign droop.


 

 

 

 

 

The last two were on the Princes Highway Gymea 

 

 So I emailed the then Road Minister Mr. Duncan Gay, with attached photos

I thought that my email to the Roads Boss explaining  my concern of  this obvious problem,  he would get it fixed pronto. 

 

How wrong was I ?

  ...............................................................................................................................................................................

From: Hans Stephens [mailto:stephens1510@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:28 AM
To: 'office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au' <office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: RMS installation incompetence 

 

Dear Minister Gay,

 

I recently  saw you on TV and you mentioned the new clearway times and the new signage between Blakehurst and Sutherland. The new clearway times have made a difference to traffic flow, but why are the signs in  Hi Vis  yellow, and why the need to attach them above existing no standing or no stopping signs?

 

 No stopping or no standing, means no stopping or no standing anytime.

These bright yellow clearway signs I'm afraid  are an eyesore, and to make matters worse the majority are now adopting jaunty angles. The signs are attached to a bracket with 2 bolts but the bracket is fastened to the power pole or its own metal pole with one bolt, so if the sign isn't tightened  correctly, it can  pivot on the single bolt as can be seen in my photos.

 

There are  old white clearway  I've seen, also at angles,  and also  fastened  with one bolt. A rethink in the fastening dept could be warranted. 

 

What is wrong with a Tech screw, top and bottom of the sign, fastened using an  18 volt impact screw driver.

 

 In the big scheme of things this is small potatoes,   but 5 klms of  these gaudy bright yellow (near new) clearway signs at crazy angles advertise,  in Hi Vis, RMS incompetence. 

 

Please could you get someone from the relevant department  to have a look and get the job done right.

 

Regards

 

Hans Stephens

 

(and my adress and contact details)

 

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 I went from Mr Gay to the new Road Minister Ms Pavey Sydney Office, to her Electoral office in Kempsey, to the Premier's office, and my local MP Mr. Duncan Kerr, using emails, and phone calls,  even a snail mail letter (thinking it was more personal) to Minister Pavey.   

 

I sent this letter to Road Minister Pavey (a letter whith a postage stamp)

 

 

 

    Melinda  Pavey  Minister for Roads, Maritime and Freight

 

 

 

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Dear Minister Pavey,

 

I'm very sorry to bother you as this letter should not have been necessary, but as other options don't seem to have made a satisfactory  difference, I'll try again.

 

 The RMS is renewing the old white clearway signs on major roads with new HI- Vis yellow ones, but the old brackets used to hold up the white ones didn't work, and they don't work on the new ones either.

 

My website  www.schoolzonesanta.com has many photos showing examples and explaining the problem.

 

Something has to be done before the new yellow signs are rolled out across NSW

 

 Please spend a couple of minutes to have a look at my site, or if too busy, delegate someone with a bit of common sense,* and who can get something done to fix this very simple problem.

 


 These are two examples of the old white clearway signs on Roberts Road Greenacre

 


 


 


 

 And the two above, are less than a year old, and were on display advertising RMS incompetence in  Hi-Vis yellow, on the Princes Highway Gymea.

 

 Many more examples on www.schoolzonesanta.com

 

 Thank you for your time.

 

 Yours faithfully,

 

  Hans Stephens

 

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*this highlight colour wasn't in the original letterl

 


What next?

February 19th, 2019

 A few weeks aco I saw this sad bit of work and wrote on   http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/superflous  

 

 I fixed it properly myself

 

 

 

 

  Lo and behold a couple of mornings ago in the same area on King Georges road  this was on show.

 
 
The bracket that held up the new hi-vis yellow sign had  ONE  old rusty coach bolt, which had broken as the photo shows
 
 

 

 

  And here is another Hi-Vis which hasn't stood the test of time

 
 
 
 
Here is a double sign on the Princes Highway Carrs Park, using the same old bracket that doesn't work

 I'll give the clearway director  Ms Hillary Johnson a call tomorrow.
 

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 I did ring Ms. Johnsone's mobile phone two days later.

 I left a short message.

I rang again straight away to add more to my message,and  a lady answered (not Ms Johnson). 

I asked her to text or email the clearway director's email adress.

Three years

January 21st, 2019

This whole nonsense should've been fixed when I first emailed the then Road Minister Mr Gay late 2015

 

 

From: Hans Stephens [mailto:stephens1510@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:28 AM
To: 'office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au' <office@gay.minister.nsw.gov.au>
Subject: RMS installation incompetence

 

 

 

Dear Minister Gay,

 

I recently  saw you on TV and you mentioned the new clearway times and the new signage between Blakehurst and Sutherland. The new clearway times have made a difference to traffic flow, but why are the signs in  Hi Vis  yellow, and why the need to attach them above existing no standing or no stopping signs?

 

 No stopping or no standing, means no stopping or no standing anytime.

 

These bright yellow clearway signs I'm afraid  are an eyesore, and to make matters worse the majority are now adopting jaunty angles. The signs are attached to a bracket with 2 bolts but the bracket is fastened to the power pole or its own metal pole with one bolt, so if the sign isn't tightened  correctly, it can  pivot on the single bolt as can be seen in my photos.

 

There are  old white clearway  I've seen, also at angles,  and also  fastened  with one bolt. A rethink in the fastening dept could be warranted. 

 

What is wrong with a Tech screw, top and bottom of the sign, fastened using an  18 volt impact screw driver.


 In the big scheme of things this is small potatoes,   but 5 klms of  these gaudy bright yellow (near new) clearway signs at crazy angles advertise,  in Hi Vis, RMS incompetence.

 

Please could you get someone from the relevant department  to have a look and get the job done right.

 

Regards

Hans Stephens

(and my adress and contact details)

 

RMS BOFFINS

December 19th, 2018
 

 

There was an article in the Daily Telegraph this morning.


It seems that the boffins at the RMS are working on an automated driverless ute that will be able to brake for kangaroos.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/crash-technology-to-be-developed-to-detect-characteristics-of-a-kangaroos-bounce/news-story/ae8f17d1c6bfb7ed8944ab378c09f080


Earlier this year the RMS announced that they're  going to trial driverless buses.

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/simple-things-first-minister

 

 Driverless buses,  kangaroo dodging utes, and these people can't design a bracket to keep clearway signs up straight for more than three weeks.

 This website catalogues my effort over three years to get the RMS to rethink the use of the exiting brackets that didn't work with the old white ones, and doesn't work with the new Hi-Vis yellow ones.

 

 Some examples

 
These two (above) I photographed on Roberts rd Greenacre.
It's quite clear that the brackets don't seem to be able to  keep the clearway signs up. 
 
 

 
 and this is how the same ones look now in Hi-Vis yellow. with one getting a nice new steel post


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 Above is one of a number of old white signs that were on display on King Georges Rd. Blakehurst.


 
It was replaced with the new yellow, and less than three weeks later it looked like this.



 This earlier post        http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/do-it-yourself           explains the three week time line, and how to put up a clearway sign that stays level, and just as they proved the the new Sydney Harbour Bridge wouldn't fall down after completion back in  1932, I too added extra weight..
 

 

   

 

 
 
 
 
 

Superfluous

December 14th, 2018
 

Superfluous definition


The definition of superfluous is something that is more than needed or unnecessary. An example of superfluous is a buying a stuffed animal for a child who already has too many stuffed animals. YourDictionary definition and usage example.
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  A new SUPERFLUOUS sign has been added onto some of the new Hi-Vis clearway signs on  the King Georges corridor.



 WHY? 

If you can't park here during the allotted clearway times, and it's no parking at all other times, why not put up one
"NO PARKING sign?"
 
 What am I missing?
 
 
 And just two power poles North, this was on show
 

  The ONE  top coach bolt had come loose, (a Blakehurst breeze perhaps) and the sign combination had swung down and left hanging on it's remaining (finger tight) bottom bolt.)

Not quite good enough, when this sign was put up less than a month ago, after I spoke to Ms. Hillary Johnson Director  clearways

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/is-it-finished


And as this topsy turvy sign  swung gently in the Blakehurst winds, it's bracket make the neat circuler pattern on the pole.


 Rather than leave this new sign combination there, 

 

I took it home, and found out why it had come loose.

 

 On the back there protruds from the brackets, the thread of a coach bolt, top and bottom.

 The bottom thread looks longer, but the paint scraper at the top shows what actually goes into the power pole.

 
 
 There it is,
 
 That's how much of old coach bolt thread went  into that old power pole.
 
I'd have to go back and have a look, but I assume the RMS person would've used the same hole to fasten the clearway sign with it's new companion "no standing at all times" sign. 
 
 
 I will go back anyway to put them up with longer coach bolts.
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And I did.

 
 I put the sign back up Tues 19  new holes, longer coach bolts.and it won't fall off again.
 
 

 

And still more.

December 12th, 2018
 
 

Yesterday Tues 11 December I had to go to  Fairmount St Lakemba.

When I came up Punchbowl road, what caught my eye across the road?

 

 

 

 

 
 
 
One of the three is this one with it's extra little bolt doing a poor job of supporting the standard DMR, RTA, RMS  pivoting bracket. 

 

 

Standing at the intersection of Fairmont and Punchbowl rd I could see three Hi- Vis yellow clearway signs installed "To Australian Standard" NOT

 Coincidentally, the school warning sign with the triangular sign showing young children.

 The triangle sign has tilted to the left.

 Maybe a second coach bolt in the bottom bracket  would work better.

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 Speaking of coach bolts  an update on this earlier post


 RMS contractors have added an extra sign onto  clearway signs at Blakehurst.

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/blowing-in-the-wind

Blowing in the wind

December 4th, 2018
 
 

 
 

The King Georges corridor of clearway signs have received attention from RMS Contractors, and droopy signs have been pushed up, some, not all, with  an extra coach bolt added underneath the bracket to hold it up.

   
                                                          
One can see the newly added extra coach bolt with it's cute little tag still attached.
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 But will a bolt under a loose  bracket,  stop a sign going up?

 No,  as this photo shows, on  the Highway in Gordon a pesky upper North Shore breeze blew it up.
 
 
 

 

 

 

 And another one so loose it rotated up on it's one fastening bolt, and stayed up.

 

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 Just for interest sake, when I was at my local Bunnings

I checked the price of a single coach bolt with a tag 

 

 

 

 

 Would it not use less taxpayer money to buy a box??
 

What's he going on about?

November 22nd, 2018
 
 

For over three years I have pointed out to the RMS, Road Minister Pavey , her office in Sydney, her Electoral office in Kempsey, and my local Member Lee Evans, that renewing old white clearway signs with the new Hi-Vis yellow ones, but using the same bracket

                                                                                             does not work. !!!!!!

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                                              Old white clearway signs

 

 

 

 

     and the new yellow installed, using the old brackets.(even though the second sign now has it's own metal pole .)

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 and these two new hi-vis yellow ones in Hurstville on King Georges Rd. were only put up less than three weeks before I took the photo


                                                        And the RMS is trialing driverless buses


 To be continued................

Is it finished?

November 10th, 2018

 

"Is it finished?"   my wife asked after I received a return call from the  RMS Director of Clearways Ms Hillary Johnson.


My wife  had also asked me that, when I'd sent photos in, of the South Hurstville, three week old signs pictured below.


 

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/give-me-strengh


 It will be finished in three weeks, I then confidentaly told her, thinking nobody with any brains would not take notice of this latest incompetence


Ms Johnson told me yesterday that maintanence crews will be sent out to re-adjust the clearway signs using "two fixing points"


This will take some time she told me

tBut this could take some time she said.TWo fixing pointse time she said.

How many hundreds of clearway signs have been replaced since I first brought out this obvious installation problem???

It would't have needed to be done, if after my first email 3 years ago, someone had used a bit common sense then.

I told Ms Johnson I will keep an eye on progress in the re-adjusting effort, reminding her that there was a NSW State Election next March and I'm sure that the Premier wouldn't (or the Road Minister Ms Pavey)  want extra  bad publicity leading up to march.

I've spent more than enough time and effort to get this simple matter resolved.


www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/no-more-needs-to-be


So there we have it  "two fixing points" but as I said to Ms Jonhson the RMS has already gone back other times, and put an extra bolt under the loose bracket (as has been the case) can keep the sign from going down ...but not up 



As you can see in this effort in Gordon.

The wind blew this sign,... UP .




And this pathectic effort to hold up this  clearway sign bracket in Gymea.

I re-adjusted this

one with a second

bolt through the bracket


http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/stronger-better-future


I'll know that things are differant now in the clearway installation regime of the RMS,  when the last section on King Georges rd. between Rocky Point rd.  Beverly Hills, and Moorfields Rd. Kingsgrove is done.

This section is yet to go from old white to the new whiz bang Hi-Vis yellow


Reading back through previous maybe people might think I am a bit touched for going on and on about this.


Maybe I am, but maybe I've just been persistant.


 


http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/and-who-pays

A three year timeline

November 9th, 2018

There was a whole page here with photos,  after I received a return call from the RMS Clearway Director Ms Hillary Johnson, but it disappeared. I'll try again

I can't do anything about that.

November 9th, 2018

 

 
 
  I handed  Mr. Micheal Daley, (above ) the  then Roads Minister in the NSW Labor Government, a copy of an email I had sent to his office  which had not been replied to.

 When I handed it to him he stepped back as if I was handing over a summons or something.

  I explained what it was,  and he read the email about my request for an extra set of flashing lights the Beverly Hills school zone on king Georges road he said 

 

" I can't do anythig about that" 


 and he was the Roads Minister

 A later road Minisrter Mr Borger did take me seriously, and the extra flashing light set was added in Beverly Hills.

No wonder I've taken 3 years to get a bit of common sense in the clearway sign department.

 

 
 
After my first email 3 years ago someone
should have said, he's right you know,
and done something then.

 I have just rung (left a message)and texted  the Clearway Director and asked her to ring me.


 

I'm back

November 8th, 2018

 I said in my last post that I would call call the Clearway Director, and the next morning I did ring the mobil number provided .

Ms. Johnson said she was on holiday, and as by coincidence my wife and I also are  away till the 6th of November.

 I will ring her tomorrow 9/11/2018

 

 The clearway signs along King George rd,  and The Princes highway haven't improved. 

  I drove to  Moorfields rd Kingsgrove, and back to Sutherland and  I have the RMS incompentence regarding the installation of HI-Vis Yellow clearway signs recorded on dash cam.

to be conitinued......

If Only

October 26th, 2018

 NSW Roads Minister had a go at Opposition leader Luke Foley this week in NSW Parliament.

 

 

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 She said, "You asked the Member for Prospect to stand aside, you should do the same during this investigation."

Mr Foley then rose on a point of order and said if Ms Pavey wanted to make personal reflections, she would have to do so by substantive motion before it was debated.

We would welcome such a debate, but we would move to amend it to talk about you, and you, and you and you, he said while pointing at four government members, he said.

Ms Pavey responded saying the opposition is full of hypocrites.

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It's the rough and tumble of Politics.

In the previous page I had extracts from two letters I wrote to two Road Ministers . 

I oppoligised for bothering them but could they get someone "with common sense." to look at my clearway sign problem that could be easily fixed.

 

 3 Years I've been on about this.

 

What would have happened if Ms Pavey, or Mr Gay had given the boss at the RMS a "rough and tumble" serve on the phone about those bloody clearway signs???



I will give Ms Hilary Johnson, Director of Clearways a ring.


To be continued.


May be

October 25th, 2018
 

I recieved this email  yesterday replying to my "recent emails" following my "original" email in April this year 2018

 

This is a more "original"  email about the clearway signs subject to a Roads Minister and was  sent on  30 March 2016

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Dear Minister Gay, 

I recently  saw you on TV and you mentioned the new clearway times and the new signage between Blakehurst and Sutherland. The new clearway times have made a difference to traffic flow, but why are the sigs n in  Hi Vis  yellow, and why the need to attach them above existing ?no standing or no stopping signs?? 

 No stopping or no standing, means no stopping or no standing anytime. 

 

These bright yellow clearway signs I?m afraid  are an eyesore, and to make matters worse the majority are now adopting jaunty angles. The signs are attached to a bracket with 2 bolts but the bracket is fastened to the power pole or its own metal pole with one bolt, so if the sign isn?t tightened  correctly, it can  pivot on the single bolt as can be seen in my photos.

 

There are  old white clearway  I?ve seen, also at angles,  and also  fastened  with one bolt. A rethink in the fastening dept could be warranted. 

 

What is wrong with a Tech screw, top and bottom of the sign, fastened using an  18 volt impact screw driver.

 

  In the big scheme of things this is small potatoes,   but 5 klms of  these gaudy bright yellow (near new) clearway signs at crazy angles advertise  in Hi Vis, RMS incompetence.  

 

Please get someone from the relevant department  to have a look and get the job done right.

 

 

Regards 

 

Hans Stephens

 

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 That email was sent on 30/3/2016    (  excuse the errant ??? marks it's an IT  problem.)


I also sent photos of new clearway signs at bad angles

 MP Gay retired and we have a new Roads Minister


I highlighted  that line in yellow in my email to Minister Gay because I had the same thought when I wrote a stamped letter to the new Roads Minister Melinda Pavey

 

 I wrote this letter to Minister Pavey on May 10 2017  

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Dear Minister Pavey,

 

I'm very sorry to bother you as this letter should not have been necessary, but as other options don't seem to have made a satisfactory  difference, I'll try again.

 

 The RMS is renewing the old white clearway signs on major roads with new HI- Vis yellow ones, but the old brackets used to hold up the white ones don't work, and they don't work on the new ones either.

 

My website  www.schoolzonesanta.com has many photos showing examples and explaining the problem.

 

Something has to be done before the new yellow signs are rolled out across NSW

 

 Please spend a couple of minutes to have a look at my site, or if too busy, delegate someone with a bit of common sense, and who can get something done to fix this very simple problem.

 

 These are two examples one of the old white clearway signs on Roberts Road Greenacre

 
 
 
 
old white ones Roberts rd
 
  And a similar look in Gymea
 
Regards 
Hans Stephens 
 
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 Those old white ones in the example of Roberts rd above,  were replaced with yellow ones,  which ended up looking a bit like the old.
 
 
 
 To be continued...............
 

Fix the small stuff

October 17th, 2018

 

I have just phoned the Premier's office and spoke to charming  Gladis.

I asked. if I could speak to Mr. Schneider


 O.MG.  "Light bulb moment"

 

I thought  the charming lady that took my call, Gladis had a voice that sounded very familiar. 

When I said my concerns were about clearway signs and Mr Schnieder

 told me to go to Ms Pavey. 

Gladis agreed that was right.

 

I then said that I had tried that, and my local MP  Lee Evans, and that this whole thing will come back to the Premier's office.

She asked for my phone number.

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 Update :

 Silly me 

 

It wasn't THE Gladis. It wasn't even a Gladis

there are none so blind as those who will not see -

October 16th, 2018
 
 How can the big problems in NSW,  like  trains, light rail, stadiums,  hostpitals, over-population, the housing crisis be addressed, or at least appear that the Government is on top of them,  to get enough votes next Election when a simple thing like putting an extra coch bolt in a clearway sign is too difficult.
 
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Last night the Federal Government in Canberra voted in favour of a One Nation' bill ,   "That it's OK to be white"

And today the Finance Minister Corman and the Attorney General Porter are all over media saying it was a "clerical error," and the Senate was meant to Vote No to the bill
 
 
 
What a lot of nonsense.

Blame the messenger. 
 

there are none so blind as those who will not see -


"Understanding cannot be forced on someone who chooses to be ignorant"


Or listen it seems

 What is the matter with these people?

On the 11th of October I messaged on the Premiers website 

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Hi,  I have tried for three years to get something done about the way the RMS is allowing their contractors to put up the new Hi-Vis yellow clearway signs.  

I spoke to David at Minister Pavey's Kempsey's office again, thinking he would contact his boss to convey my  increasing frustration, clearly shown on my website www.schoolzonesanta.com 

The photos in the attachment shows the rubbish that taxpayers pay for.  The clearway signs pictured, were put up less than three weeks before I took the photos. 

Please ring me on  0403022559 

I'll ring your office tomorrow Friday 11 Oct

regards Hans

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I did ring the Premiers office and spoke to David

(as I mentioned in a previous post.)

 No one has rung me

Today this email came in.

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Googling  Mr Schneider

https://www.intermedium.com.au/article/david-schneider-joins-top-tier-nsw-cios

 

I see that he has ?specific expertise in the implementation of large scale business and technology transformation projects,?

so to get someone to find a way to keep  clearway signs up straight (more than three weeks) should be easy.hould look orgainising 

Did the director, briefings and correspondence Mr D Schneider look at this website and say "Wrong office, and dimiss my concerns out of hand, or did he click on and think, Yes Hans has a point with these clearway signs,  but the Premier is too busy with important stuff than to be bothered with his nonsense.  Look further down the Posts Mr Schneider, and note I am persitant.

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I asked the local MP in my Electorate Mr Lee Evans to walk down the hall and have a chat to Roads Minister Pavey about this old pest who has fetish about crooked clearway signs.

 My emails and his replies on this earlier page.

 

http://www.schoolzonesanta.com/index.php/frustration

 

 I asked him when he said he couldn't help, to wander down to Ms Pavey's office and speak to her in person, as obviousily her staff don't bother her to tell her about thousands of  clearway signs avertising RMS incompentence.

The bracket the RMS uses are the same ones the DMR and the RTA used on the white clearway signs 

 They have one fixing bolt, and can't hold up their own weight.

 

 

 

The Leaning Sign of Pavey

October 15th, 2018

 

 



 

 

                                                                              Italy has it's Leaning Tower of Pisa



NSW has it's own leaning icons  on lamposts in Hi-Vis yellow in many suburbs on roads from St. Ives in the North, to Kirrawee in the South.

 


 

 
 
On RMS controlled main roads there are an  increasing number of new clearway signs on the lean, in Gymea, Blakehurst, Roselands, Hurstville, Gordon, and Ryde( to name a few)

The photos below are  just some of those, in  pages of the last three years of this website. 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 

 
 The problem is that the bracket  cannot  keep the   567 gram  ( slightly more  than half a kilo)  clearway sign  up in a horisontal position.
 
The bracket used by the RMS has one fixing point and that 567 gram weight is just too much or it to bear.

What would happen if you drill an extra hole in the RMS bracket and use two coach bolts to attach it back on the pole

I did and hung  12,240. grams  (27 lb) of weights off the bracket when I finished.



 One fixing bolt holding up the 567 gram (just over half kilogram) piece of hi-Vis aluminium

 

 Volunteer worker re-attaching modified RMS bracket and sign with an second coach bolt

 

 

 

 So the bracket with two coach

bolts  can easily hold up

12,240  grams. (over 12 kilos)

But the one coach bolt way of

installation

("to Australian Standards")

prefered by the RMS, can't

handle 567 grams


 

wrong number

October 12th, 2018
 

I did ring the office of NSW Premier  this morning and spoke to David, and told him the drama I've had with me over the last three years.

I gave him this website URL and asked him to get someone to ring me, and gave him my mobil number. I did message the Premiers office last night but didn't give all of my mobil number. I'll message them again tonight the correct no of digits.

David asked me if I did get replies to my emails (over the last 3 years). 

I said yes, normally about  three (3) months later,  with a reply "On behalf of the Minister" and the clearway signs in every new section I saw still showed incompetent installation.

 

 Our local member was a few years ago was Barry Collier, and he held his seat with a slim margin.

 Before an election suddenly there appeared on lamposts  posters  saying  "LETS KEEP COLLIER.

I thought what can I do with that?

That afternoon on the Princes Highway in Slyvania was this "door" sign, to greet all the South bound peak hour traffic.

 

 

 

STRONGER BETTER FUTURE

October 11th, 2018

 

I have messaged this to Premier Gladis Berejiklian's office in Sydney tonight (Thursday 11)


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,  I have tried for three years to get something done about the way the RMS is allowing their contractors to put up the new Hi-Vis yellow clearway signs.

 

I spoke to David at Minister Pavey's Kempsey's office again, thinking he would contact his boss to convey my  increasing frustration, clearly shown on my website www.schoolzonesanta.com

 

The photos in the attachment shows the rubbish that taxpayers pay for.  The clearway signs pictured, were put up less than three weeks before I took the photos.

 

Please ring me on  0403022559 

 

 I'll ring your office tomorrow Friday 11 Oct

 

regards Hans

 

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  A two page spread in The Daily Telegraph this morning  "I'm an outsider who is an insider" .

NSW Premier Gladis Berejiklian opens up on "her families struggles" on " being an outsider"  "Glads on social issues"

 Furtther in the article I read it states: "That she  repeated mutiple times in  the interview that she wanted to give voters "a stronger better future"-a hint at a possible election slogan."

I've have another slogan for "Glads" (as the Tele called her)

 

 

 " STRONGER BETTER FUTURE"



 I couldn't do it from a foxit scan, (AS YET) but imagine a BOLD RED slash through the "FUTURE "and

  CLEARWAY BRACKETS added instead in a handwritten style.

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You see it on TV with people saying  "They should do something" and leave it to someone else


Over the years I have had a say.

This website for some I.T. reason has lost a lot of photos 




 


I have tried to get some thing done about this rubbish below