I feel a police caution coming on

November 12th, 2009

Youths arrested over spray paint theft


POLICE have charged two youths (15 and 16) with the theft of a large quantity of spray paint allegedly linked to a spike in graffiti offences in the Blue Mountains area in NSW.


Graffiti arrest at Jannali 1.30am Thurs 12 nov.



13/11/09 Teens face graffiti charges after crackdown


A graffiti blog site had this line about a Mitre 10 store in Paddington

"I've had so many young writers confront me outside the place asking me if i could buy them paint because they are under 18 !! Naturally i obliged, it's not like it's alcahol or anything !! "

How to get refugees off the Oceanic Viking

November 11th, 2009

Step 1 .......Place oily rags in a 44 gallon drum and position the drum near the ship's ventilation system.

Step 2 .......Set fire to drum making sure that the smoke gets around whole ship and can be seen from shore

Step 3 .....Have lots of fire alarms going with worried looking life- vested sailors running around, declare an emergency and evacuate ship.

and for "safety" reasons don't let the "refugees" back on board, and sail off back to Australia.

Police Cautions UK style

November 10th, 2009
Will Police cautions here end up like in the UK?

"it was claimed that up to 40,000 assaults a year are dealt with by a caution issued by the police instead of the offender being prosecuted in court. In cases cited today, a 15-year-old boy was cautioned for rape and a man was given a caution after smashing a glass into a pub landlady's face."


Graffiti group nabbed

November 9th, 2009
Just missed out on Jail


How lucky were they that the Premier tough new jail laws weren't in yet

No reply as yet to my email about graffiti to my local MP Barry Collier.


I emailed the Telegraph

(Yoursay Daily Telegraph 10/11/09)


The letters editor "for space reasons" shortened my letter, see link above.

I sent Jason Morrisson at 2GB the four links of minors receiving "Police cautions" in the Sutherland Shire.

Supercheap Auto the graffiti vandals friend.


Police Cautions for vandals

November 8th, 2009

Links for newspaper stories about 3 lots of graffiti "artists caught and let go in the last 6 weeks.



I emailed the opposition leader Barry O'Farrell
in June about graffiti.


Get young crims back on the streets faster.

November 8th, 2009




We've had a gutful...NSW Premier Nathan Rees stands in Cox Lane, Toongabbie, near his home in Western Sydney. Juveniles must now have a legitimate reason for having spray paint on their person Photo: Adam Hollingworth

Which costs more?

November 5th, 2009

RTA "preferred" flashing lights installed today at The Boulevarde Gymea near The Princes highway.

Note the brake lights

Peter Olsen's Flashing lights at Peakhurst

Note the brake lights.


Which flashing lights are the the best value for the taxpayers dollar?

Peter Olsen's lights cost..........$350 each.

The RTA preferred lights cost...$58,125 each. (or 800 signs for $46.5M )


What can I say?

Getting 'tough' on graffiti vandals

November 4th, 2009

Graffiti vandals sentenced to talking, tea and scones


"It makes me mad, but you can't tell teenagers anything - or you can, but they won't listen."

"they need discipline."

After reading the scone and jam article I emailed The Daily Telegraph


This bit was printed this morning

My original must've been a bit long.

I also emailed my local State Member Mr Barry Collier MP on Wednesday morning, I'll post a reply when I get one.

He as the member for Miranda must be dismayed with the leval of graffiti vandalism in his electorate.

This clever work in Oak road Kirrawee

To be continued.....

Official Police Caution.

November 2nd, 2009

We are urged to "look out for vandals during the holidays"


Because graffiti vandals mainly sneak around at night to do their destructive rubbish, they are very rarely caught.

Although in the last few weeks four young graffiti grubs have been apprehended.

These two early October


"Police gave the teenagers OFFICAL CAUTIONS"

I don't read anywhere that the parents or the vandals cleaned the up mess, or paid for it to be done.

this young individual in Kirrawee


"The Sutherland boy was CAUTIONED under the Young Offenders Act."

and this one in September in Kirrawee


and "the police gave him a youth caution"

In Perth earlier this year:

This fellow needs a "Police Caution"

(Highlight and drag whole link into browser)



To make it clear to a minor that illegal activity will not be tolerated this happened on Tuesday night


I was told that if the person arrested and charged, admits to the crime, and agrees, then they get a police caution.

This consists of a talk, pointing out that what they have done, is bad

I suggested to the officer that maybe a fine of a $1000 to the parent of a minor caught doing graffiti might be more of a deterrent, and the parent would then perhaps keep a closer eye on what their child gets up to.

I said that if I mistakenly park in a disabled spot I can get fined $405, but someone caught doing thousands of dollars damage with a $2.50 can of spray paint, gets a talking to.

Obviously on the record the officer couldn't comment and they have to follow procedure, and explained that as the law stands that's all they can do.

"You should write to someone" the officer said.

"The Sutherland mayor hasn't replied to 2 emails* from me on this subject." I said.


I rang Sutherland Council and was put through to a graffiti person who agreed that as it is so hard to catch graffiti vandals that when you do they should be made an example of.
I popped into Rockdale Council and was told the same by council staff and a young Policewoman outside Kogarah Police station told me that young offenders treat police cautions as a joke.
A polite young Policeman at Miranda Police station, shall I say, didn't disagree with me that maybe a $1000 dollar fine for parents of minors caught graffiting, would be more of a deterrent than a "Police caution".

Update Fri 6 Nov

* I wrote to the Mayor about TV advertising during the Bathhurst 1000


More about Supercheap Auto that in previous pages.

To be continued....

Close to home

November 1st, 2009

Two doors up from my place is a council "park" that used to have a climbing fort swings and a slide, but they were removed for some reason leaving only a seat.
Last night to make the streetscape better some grub has sprayed one fence

I've emailed the mayor twice recentily about graffiti matters and had ...NO Reply.



Mayor Lorraine Kelly

Does the mayor really care about graffiti?

Supercheap Auto, super smart

October 25th, 2009

Fly spray in Summer, cold and Flu medicine in Winter.

Business targets a need.

Two weeks ago Supercheap Auto featured on a TV ad during the V8 Bathurst 1000 CHN 7 telecast, a "special" on 4 cans of spray paint for $10.

Aerosol paint spray cans are the weapon of choice for graffiti vandals. I wonder how many "4 for $10 cans" cans were bought from Supercheap stores while they were on special, and have been used for this illegal purpose?

Today during the Surfers Paradise V8 meet I notice on TV advertising during the race that Supercheap Auto also sells paint thinners.

Very handy to know, if your property has been graffitied.

Thank you Mr Supercheap.

This van drove along side me on Parramatta rd on Friday

And I spotted this lady painting out graffiti same afternoon in Annandale.

Graffiti won't stop unless someone gets serious.

Update: 28 Oct.

No reply from my Mayor Kelly to my 2nd email.

For a person who publicly has a such a strong view against graffiti, you'd think sending me a couple of lines and pushing the reply button wouldn't be too much to ask.


October 21st, 2009


On the Kingsway Miranda


No comment from my Mayor Cr Kelly about Super cheap Auto's help in the fight against graffiti.

I've sent her another email and also one to Supercheap.

----- Original Message -----
From: stephens1510
To: lkelly@ssc.nsw.gov.au
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:09 PM
Subject: Fw: graffiti and corporate responsibility

Dear mayor,
last monday I sent you (and after reading it back) a rather passionate email regarding graffiti and advertising.
Graffiti is a huge problem in the Sutherland Shire and when I saw spray paint cans advertised as a "special"during the Bathurst 1000 I was angry, as it's mainly young men that watch the race and mainly young men that do graffiti.
I was angry that money and profit trumps community goodwill.
Do you think that promoting a special on spray paint cans during the Bathurst 1000 telecast (even though legal) was a responsible thing to do considering the audience demographic of this V8 race?

Hans Stephens


Would it hurt if the Sutherland Mayor publicly questioned the need to feature repeatedly, this "special" on spray cans by Supercheap Auto during the Bathurst 1000, which although legal wasn't helping in the battle against graffiti.

No reply

October 18th, 2009

This house owned by Railcorp in Sutherland about 1 1/2 kl/mh from Sutherland Council Chambers was repainted by graffiti vandals.


( Drag all of above link into your browser to view article)

I emailed Sutherland Mayor Cr Kelly last Monday about the spray paint bargains Supercheap Auto were spruiking during the Bathurst 1000 but obviously she doesn't share my concern.

Well not concered enough to push the reply button to me and say she'll as the Mayor of an area with a massive graffiti problem she would contact Supercheap Auto about their legal but maybe morally inappropriate marketing.

Supercheap Auto the graffiti vandals friend

October 12th, 2009

The Bathurst 1000 V8 car race is the NO 1 motor race in Australia.

Channel 7 did a magnificent job to bring the drama into my lounge room.

The necessary advertising was pitched at mainly the male market.

On a large track side SUPERCHEAP AUTO billboard (the main sponsor of the race) states that it has over 200,000 items in it's Australian stores.

Why out of 200,000 products, and from page 19 of it's 20 page "specials" catalogue did they have to feature the special on aerosol spray paint cans at

"4 CANS FOR $10."

Graffiti is costing untold millions and to advertise this product to an audience of mostly young males, obviously legal BUT..is it the right thing to do????

How many thousands of dollars damage can be done with $10 worth of spray paint?

I know it's a legal product and you have to be over 18 to buy it.

You can't buy alcohol either unless you're eighteen and have a look at whose off their face on the streets at night.

I emailed Supercheap Auto but no reply was forthcoming


October 8th, 2009

Feel free to clean up your tags says mayor


This was on the Leader website


Teens arrested after graffiti found
5/10/2009 10:41:00 AM
Sutherland police arrested two teenagers from Sutherland and Woronora on Friday for graffiti offences.
Police allege the male pair, aged 15 and 14, are responsible for graffiti sprayed on Railway Street, Jannali at 10.20pm on Thursday.

Police gave the teenagers official cautions for malicious damage, and possessing spray paint can with the intent to damage or deface property.


Did the teenagers or maybe their parents clean off the damage or pay to do it?

After three more letters about graffiti in the Leader, I sent in this one.

To: leaderletters@fairfax.com.au
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:19 PM
Subject: graffiti

Dear sir,
it seems that almost every issue of the St George and Sutherland Shire Leader has an article about the ever increasing scourge of graffiti.
I read on the Leader website that police arrested two teenagers and charged them with malicious damage and possessing a spray can with the intent to deface or damage property.
The male pair 14 and 15 year old were given "official cautions"
My question is wether they, or their parents were required to, or pay to have the "malicious damage" cleaned up?
Unless there are consequences, graffiti vandalism will only get worse.
Parents have to be made more responsible for what their offspring are up to.
Maybe parents would care what junior does at night if they were handed a $1000 bill for cleaning up graffiti vandalism.
Park unintentionaly in a diabled spot and it costs $405, forget the time and drive through a school zone and there goes your license, but sneak around and deface property and it's an "official caution" Get serious.

Regards Hans Stephens

Sutherland Mayor Cr Kelly is right when she said,

"The State Government needs to look at the Young Offenders Act,'' she said.

"There should be more moves and more options to make offenders clean up their graffiti.''

Work to rule

September 24th, 2009

In Willarong (South) just off Captain Cook drive Caringbah is a school zone fitted with a set of flashing lights

as you turn right off Capt Cook drive into Willarong the school zone sign is so close to the corner, the flashing lights so high, fitted with shields and although it also has the red cicle lit up, because drivers are busy making the turn, who sees them?

If you turn left from Capt. Cook drive, being are so close to the corner and so high that seeing them is nigh on impossible.

BUT yes you can get a very clear view of these flashing lights if you come across the intersection from Willarong South, BUT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, as that road is blocked.

So instead of having this school zone sign and it's expensive flashing unit a bit further up the road where it can be seen,
No doubt it is installed at the "REGULATION" distance from the school and is practically useless.

I will email the new roads minister Mr David Campbell and see if he can get this flashing light unit moved to the Beverly Hills school zone sign (below) where it can do some good.

I have tried previously tried to get flashers there, and emailed Mr Roozendaal and his successor Mr Daly,.... with no result.

The archive page (below) shows my efforts to try and get an extra flashing unit.


The archive page (above) shows my email to Mr Daly, and all that came back from his office was,

To: stephens1510
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: Beverly Hiills School zone.

Dear Mr Stephens,

Thank you for your email to the Hon Michael Daley MP, Minister for Roads.

The Minister has arranged for the matters raised to be examined and a response will be provided as soon as possible.

Office of the Minister for Roads


Mr Roozendaal's office only answered after this appeared in the Daily Telegraph....

The reply said they'd "look into it," and nothing has changed at Beverly Hills.

To be continued

Road safety not revenue.

September 19th, 2009

As I told Jason Morrison on 2GB this morning whenever they announce new speed cameras they always say that the money from the fines isn't important, and they wouldn't care if no driver was fined.

To sound even more genuine, revenue from cameras was promised for spinal injury research

It's funny that even when millions are collected from just one speed camera this article was in the Telegraph this morning.


Speed cameras are all about safety.... not revenue ????

South street Kogarah

September 10th, 2009

When I first stood in my Santa suit at the Kogarah school zone and waved my sign (Dec '04)I could see that South st entry to that school zone was a problem


Drivers sit at the lights waiting for the lights, then turn right accelerate and flash.

As you turn right your attention is on turning right,looking at at getting around the centre medium strip, not on the school zone.

What is needed there opposite South st is a school zone sign facing South st with... you guessed it,..... "Flashing lights," to remind drivers waiting at the lights of the zone.

How many drivers have been caught after visiting patients at the hospital there and are thinking of a sick friend or relative while waiting for a green.

I have mentioned South st before,


Today a customer, a local Kogarah businessman told me he had been caught by the camera recently after coming out of South st.

I will email and see if I can at least get a sign facing South st installed there.

If drivers continue to "speed" there it must continue to be a road safety issue for the school kids.

Speed cameras are easier and more profitable

September 6th, 2009
The NSW road toll is 63 higher than this time last year


So the answer it seems is more speed cameras


Mobile speed cameras will slow drivers down but there also needs to be more highway patrol in unmarked cars, because cameras don't detect drugged, drunk, or unlicensed drivers.

The president of the NRMA, Wendy Machin, said a highly visible police presence was the best way to lower speeding. "Receiving an infringement notice in the mail a week or two after the fact is not an effective speeding deterrent," she said.

IT was announced that we will get another 48 highway patrol in NEXT year's budget.

What's new, this is from Hansard 2007

"The Minister for Police seems to be in denial. He is almost parrot like in his statements to the House about how he will give us an extra 50 highway patrol police. His own superintendent, the man in charge of road safety in New South Wales, says he wants 400 officers, and clearly we need those 400 officers."


Fixed speed cameras don't need superannuation, holiday pay, sick pay and that's why they are the preferred option.

5 more school zones are safer.

August 25th, 2009


FROM www.schoolzonelights.com.au


Chinese whispers

August 25th, 2009
This came in my inbox

(cut and paste didn't work)

I sent the email to Peter Olsen for a response and back came

As I said in a reply email to the "Concerned Citizen" if he/she would like to add anything more, I'll gladly post it here.

Why is it necessary to always have a ulterior motive to do anything?

Peter proved his lights at Lurgano and Peakhurst, could do a better job at a fraction of the cost of the RTA's "preferred" over engineered systems.

For undisclosed reasons the RTA has not used Peter's technology.

One question to the "concerned citizen"

Will you show this page to all the people that you have told about how that greedy Peter Olsen is out there "self promoting" and "filling his pockets?"

Your email says " technology given to us"

"US" Do you work for the RTA?

Flashing lights are effective

August 20th, 2009

"This new technology was found to be highly visible and effective at slowing people down."

This was said by Rockdale Member Frank Sator on his web site


He was announcing the installation of two of the flashing light sets at Kogarah that should've been there day one.

First Base.

August 19th, 2009
A reply to my email(s) emailed the NSW Premier
and they have been passed on. "Firse Base"

My email to the Road Minister 21/11/08 (below) didn't get a result, last Year will it now?


Dear Minister,
In July last year the RTA installed variable speed cameras at a school zone on King Georges rd Beverly Hills.
Even before the cameras were switched on I could see that because of the length of the school zone and many side streets entering it, that there would be carnage when they were activated, even though flashing lights are at both ends on King Georges Rd.
After an article in the local paper featuring a group of sad looking motorists holding up tickets I emailed the then roads minister Mr Roozendaal suggesting an extra set of flashing lights opposite Edgbason st to help South bound motorists (and make it safer for children, the whole idea for having school zones)
After 4 unanswered emails, I wrote to the Telegraph and then "coincidentally" an unhelpful reply came from Mr Roozendaal's office two days later.

30,000 infringements in the first three months would indicate that perhaps that more signage would be helpful.
To more easily illustrate the problem at Beverly Hills, I've brought forward the relevant page on my website
Please have a look
We need road rules and to enforce them, but hammering average, unaware drivers is not the way to go.
More sixty signs and that extra flashing light unit at Beverly Hills, would go a long way in the public relations department.

Thank you for your time.

All the best in handling, what is a difficult portfolio.

Yours faithfully
Hans Stephens

More NSW schools to get safety lights

August 9th, 2009

Another 38 school zones are to get flashing lights.


"These 25 sites have been selected on the basis of strict criteria including crash history and risk, traffic and pedestrian volumes, speed limits and road visibility," Mr Daley added.

It's a shame that a school zone has to have a "crash history."

Maybe at assembly the student that draws the short straw can go out and get that school a bit of crash history to speed up the installation of flashing lights for the surviving students

From Peter Olsen at www.schoolzonelights .com.au


The road is a dangerous place

Why not?

August 5th, 2009

I wrote a post on 23/2/06 about having advertising on school zone signs to pay for them to be fitted with flashing lights.

Why won't the RTA allow ads on school zone signs?

They have advertising on their pedestrian bridges.

Advertising is allowed on street name signs

and new bus shelters are appearing with advertising space that pays for them.

This just finished rather elaborate expensive one, (except for the advertising) outside Stewart Toyota in Waratah st Kirrawee

I asked car salesman if many people used that bus stop?

"I didn't know there was a bus stop, before they built the shelter" he said.

There's another new shelter on Sylvania rd near the Kingsway Miranda

So it appears that you can have advertising to pay for little used bus shelters, but to have a 6 or 7 word company tag on a school zone sign to pay for flashing lights for the added safety of school children, is out of the question.
I emailed the NSW Premier

No reply as yet.......

If I don't get a response, I'll send a letter by post in case the spam email filter at the Premier's office is a bit harsh.

21 hours.

August 3rd, 2009

Last week a speed camera in Cleveland st Moore park was featured in the media.


$7 million in fines from 71,288 drivers in a variable speed school zone.

How may of these speeding fines were for outside school zone time "speeding"?

I emailed the Telegraph


Dear sir,
Tony Morrison of Chifley "In the slow lane" (DT 1st AUG) didn't go to court to contest a speeding fine, because "there's no point as you still loose your points," which is just what the RTA/GOV relies on.
Imagine if all the 71,288 drivers caught in one year by the school zone speed camera in Cleveland street went to court, there would be a backlog for many years.
There is no excuse for speeding in a school zone, but most (as exposed by the NRMA) have instead of flashing lights, inadequate or obscured signage.
How many of the 71,288 speeding infringements at the Cleveland st site were actually in school zone time, or rather were for drivers detected cruising through this area after hours a few kl/mhs over the changed (for that bit of road) speed limit?
Speed camera as a road safety tool have there place but what's really needed on the road to catch the real offenders, are more highway patrol in unmarked cars
Invariably people caught doing ridiculous speeds and other illegal activity behind the wheel, are caught by unmarked police patrols.
Speed cameras are seen by government as handy cash registers on posts, and unlike real police, don't need superannuation, holiday pay, sick pay etc or heaven forbid, demand a fair wage for the difficult job they do.

Regards Hans Stephens

Headline letter in this morning's paper,


For "space" reasons my letter has been edited and it appears that although I say there's no excuse for speeding, I ALSO say take your case to court.



Greedy camera and Graffiti

July 31st, 2009

Front page Telegraph story about school zone variable speed cameras in Cleveland st Moore Park making $7 million in one year.

Questioned about this amount Mr Daly replied, "What's a child's life worth?"

If children's lives are so worthwhile why not spend that $7 million on
Olsen style flashing lights?

How many $1.000 flashing lights units can you get for $7 million?

Graffiti article in the same paper


One low life sentenced to 500 hours community service.

What happens when he doesn't front up?

What happens if if he does show enthusiasm for cleaning graffiti?

Look at the state of this compartment, how long till the new Waratah carriages look like this?

Original Message -----
From: LOP
To: stephens1510
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Graffiti and how to get votes

Thanks Hans for your email.

I have written a letter that I will post to you regarding this matter.

I share your concerns regarding graffiti - and that we need to combat it.


UPDATE 12 .10 pm

I ve just rung Ian Hampton about the demo, but because of lack of numbers he's called it off

Did Tim Soden from 2GB's newsroom ring you I asked, I gave him your number


said Ian

I know the newsrooms busy, but here we have a farmer with a genuine grievence starving up a pole for 35 days.

No time for a 30 second phone call?

If Ian's phone was unanswered, Mr Soden could've called me to get Ian to contact 2GB.

Were're not talking about the normal news item here, like a burst water main in some back street, but a starving bloke up a pole for 35 days and "the tough but humane" Prime minister couldn't care less..

Thank you Tim Soden

Good luck Peter Spencer


Barry O'Farrell MP
Shadow Minister for Western Sydney
Member for Ku-ring-gai
T: 02 9230 2270
F: 02 9221 8208



The letter that the NSW Opposition leader has written for me in reply to ones I sent on June 29 and July 21 (further down this page) hasn't arrived as yet.


I'm worried about this line in the article about the Waratah train,

"The project will provide jobs for western Sydney at a state-of-the-art, $220 million maintenance facility in Auburn, which will employ more than 100 people."

"state of the art", the Collins class submarines were "state of the art" as were the "millennium trains." and the school zone flashing lights that break down are also "state of the art"

State of the art means over-engineered and expensive.

$430 million or road safety ?

July 27th, 2009

Victoria Gov collected $430 million in fines in one year from speed cameras

Mobile camera plan to cut NSW road toll Alexandra Smith
July 25, 2009

THE Roads Minister, Michael Daley, favours the introduction of covert mobile speed cameras to discourage dangerous driving as the state's worsening road toll stands at 235 deaths this year.

It is understood Mr Daley supports mobile cameras, which are used in Victoria and Queensland, even though his predecessor, Eric Roozendaal, refused to install them in school zones while he was the roads minister.


I don't care if they have more speed cameras, but not if they replace police.

We need more unmarked highway patrol not less.

The Police opposition Police spokesman Mike Gallacher has the right idea.
He says in the article:

"the most effective way to reduce the road toll was to increase highway police patrols, not hidden speed cameras."

My post on 10 JUNE titled


In The Daily Telegraph 10/06/09

What "new technologies" could be used to rein in speeding drivers?

What about the "point to point cameras" (to be used only for trucks), for all drivers?

More speed cameras that only catch the unwary average driver.

What about tripling the Highway Patrol and all new cars to be unmarked, ......there's a novel idea.

No, speed cameras work 24 hours , don't need superannuation, sick leave or annual leave.

A small story now, but one that can have a big impact later.



More schools are to be protected

July 27th, 2009
Schools in the Ryde area are to get Peter Olsen's "check speed" flashing lights.



School zone lights campaigner Peter Olsen has today announced that all schools in the Ryde electorate are to get school zone flashing lights, thanks to the support of Rotary.

"In May this year Ryde Council gave approval for the installation of privately funded flashing lights in the Ryde area, at the request of local MP Victor Dominello. The first set was installed at Denistone East Public School on 15 May.

"Following the success of those lights the Rotary Club of North Ryde, in conjunction with other local Rotary clubs, has offered to raise the funds required to allow the lights to be rolled out to all schools in the Ryde electorate.

"The rollout has already commenced, with flashing lights going live today on Coxs Rd at North Ryde Public School, a short distance from where a boy was critically injured by a car wheel in May while waiting for a bus.

"Work is well advanced on installations at a number of other schools, with all schools expected to have flashing lights by the end of the current school term.

"This is an important community initiative aimed at greatly increasing the safety of children at local schools.

"A flashing lights fund has been set up with Bendigo Bank, which is also helping to fund the lights. Any individual or business that is interested in supporting the project should contact Bendigo Bank at North Ryde.

For more information contact:
Peter Olsen

More details onother schools on


Graffiti are there consequences?

July 22nd, 2009



Will he pay the compensation??


I suggest Mr Williams does a bit of graffiti in Singapore.

29/10/09 Another teen graffiti vandal caught and given a caution.


Did his parents pay for the graffiti removal?


Graffiti charge

A CRONULLA man will appear in Sutherland Shire Court next month to answer charges relating to a graffiti incident at Loftus.

Sutherland police say they saw the man, 22, using white paint and a roller to paint a wall at Loftus Oval on August 7.

Police seized the paints and roller and the man with damaging property maliciously.

He was granted conditional bail and will appear in court on September 3.

22 Sept.09

What happened in court?


Teens arrested after graffiti found
5/10/2009 10:41:00 AM
Sutherland police arrested two teenagers from Sutherland and Woronora on Friday for graffiti offences.
Police allege the male pair, aged 15 and 14, are responsible for graffiti sprayed on Railway Street, Jannali at 10.20pm on Thursday.

Police gave the teenagers official cautions for malicious damage, and possessing spray paint can with the intent to damage or deface property.

Did the teenagers or maybe their parents clean off the damage or pay to do it?

Police commander vows to tackle graffiti head on
13/08/2009 1:17:00 PM


Higher priority: Acting Superintendent Jenny Hayes and Barry Collier inspect graffiti at Miranda. Picture: Chris Lane

The only way graffiti can be slowed is for there to be consequences if you do it.

Bath rd Jannali

I have emailed (June 29) our State Opposition leader,

Let's see what his thoughts are on the graffiti curse.


----- Original Message -----
From: stephens1510
To: barry.ofarrell@nsw.liberal.org.au
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 6:17 PM
Subject: Graffiti and how to get votes

Dear Mr O'farrell,
Graffiti is an ever increasing problem and needs a strong response to deter the morons that do it.
The Singapore way is to cane the offenders and that seems to work.
This punishment, even though it would certainly alleviate our graffiti vandalism, would never happen here.
To show that graffiti vandalism has consequences, maybe a "graffiti camp" may help.
Set up a camp out West with a high fence topped with razor wire, basic accommodation, basic facilities, basic food and where people can be sent to for graffiti offences and have to clean prepared spray painted brick walls every day of their sentence.
The staff there have authority to add extra days onto the sentence of anyone who refuses to co operate with the cleaning task.

Counselling, conferencing and community service won't work on these anti-social vandals, who have no regard for authority.

What happens now when people don't turn up for community service?

When people know that to get caught doing graffiti means a month, cleaning graffiti off a brick wall, with no TV, video games, and mates, day after day, this may get some result.
Compared to the cost of cleaning damage now, setting up and running a graffiti camp I think would be worth a go.

To show strong leadership on cracking down this problem will be appreciated by almost everyone out here.

Yours faithfully
Hans Stephens


Will it be a..... "thank you for your email, and we'll get back to you as soon as possible."
UPDATE: July 2 No reply from Mr OFarrell's office as yet
UPDATE July 21

As I haven't heard back from the opposition leader Barry O'Farrell's office in answer to my earlier email, I sent another last night, this time adding my website url


From: stephens 1510
To: barry.ofarrell@nsw.liberal.org.au
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:25 PM
Subject: Fw: Graffiti and how to get votes

Dear Mr O Farrell,
I have resent this email as I have had no acknowledgement as yet, of my original.
As you can see on my website www.schoolzonesanta.com in the category "2007 NSW ELECTION" I have an interest in politics and see the need for a change.
The category "Railcorp waste" and "RailCorp bullies loyal tenant" shows that I can be persistent.
Graffiti is blight on the landscape and needs someone with a will to introduce strong measures to combat this crime.
Also maybe a bit of corporate responsibility mightn't go astray.
Super Cheap Auto were selling 5 cans of spray paint for $10.
Perhaps a levy on spray cans to help pay for graffiti removal,(or to fund a "graffiti camp") ?

Thanks for your time
Yours faithfully
Hans Stephens


This morning 9 hours later came back:


Original Message -----
From: LOP
To: stephens1510
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Graffiti and how to get votes

Thanks Hans for your email.

I have written a letter that I will post to you regarding this matter.

I share your concerns regarding graffiti - and that we need to combat it.



Barry O'Farrell MP

NSW Liberal Leader
Shadow Minister for Western Sydney
Member for Ku-ring-gai
T: 02 9230 2270
F: 02 9221 8208


Update 17/08/09

As I hadn't recieved a letter I emailed Mr O'Farrell again;

14/08/2009 9:48:09 pm >>>

Dear Mr O'Farrell,
thank you for your reply to my email (below-)
The letter you had written to me has not arrived as yet, and appears to have gone astray, could you perhaps email it to me to save time.

Graffiti is once again the cover story in our local paper

and anyone that takes a hard stand against it will get the votes.

yours faithfully
Hans Stephens

And today came this reply:

----- Original Message -----
From: LOP
To: stephens1510
Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Graffiti and how to get votes

Thanks Hans - let me follow it up for you.



Barry O'Farrell MP


UPDATE 27/08/09 A LETTER FROM MR O'fARRELL HAS ARRIVED, I'll post it when I see some policy annoucement on youth crime


Waratah st Kirrawee

I thought today (before I accessed my emails) I should contact the Liberal's answer to the local Labor incumbent MP Barry Collier, but I don't know who he is.

Back in '07 it was a Mr Annesley and although his name does comes up regarding rugby league, it's Mr Collier that I see in the local paper out and about doing his best for the community.

Who is taking on Mr Collier, who holds this seat by a handful of votes?
Going back to my email to the transport minister David Campbell
(July 5 09 )about those cameras at Cronulla (see "RailCorp waste" category)

The response was, in part

"Your correspondence has been noted and will be given all necessary attention."

Would that mean into a shredder, or will they get rid of the evidence of waste, and move the cameras to where they will do more good.